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lounge chair swap

By Andy on September 25, 2015

I recently shared this lounge chair on Instagram –a local Craigslist find, which has clearly seen better days. But for $30 (yeah, you heard right) I wasn’t turning it down. I enlisted the help of our friend, Andy, who has a bigger car than us (not difficult) to pick it up –turns out this chair would have squeezed into the Cooper. Anyway, here it is…

craigslist-plycraft-before

Looks okay here, but the leather was done for. It also squeaked if you stared at it too long. But the wood was in great shape. I knew this wasn’t an original Eames Lounge, so obviously Plycraft or Selig –these names are used interchangeably in ads, and I couldn’t find a chair sharing every characteristic, so I wasn’t sure which.

craigslist-plycraft-before-close

I’ve seen a few Plycraft chairs before, but this one seemed different –the arms are curved over, not flat, like those I’d seen. And the rear cushion connectors (for want of a better descriptor) are wood, not metal. But the legs are the same hollow chromed steel I was familiar with. Speaking of the base, that carried the only marking.

frank-doerner-stamp

So, this is a Frank Doerner base, made in 1975, to a patent registered almost ten years before. And here is that patent –well, the pictures. The base is cool, actually (apart from the squeak) and permits a standard office chair swivel, plus a full recline –this, in conjunction with the ottoman, allows a very comfortable seating position.

US3391893.pdf

Still no clue if this was Plycraft or Selig, but the base was in fact the clincher –only Plycraft chairs have this style, apparently. Selig bases are more like the original Herman Miller-made chairs. That’s according to Peter Triestman (author of this post), who I emailed. I also reached out to our Instagram/Facebook friends –”it’s a Plycraft”, they said. And that was that.

craigslist-plycraft-before-legs

Meanwhile, we’ve been hanging onto a Kardiel repro Eames Lounge. It was a steal (thanks Jon!) and filled a spot nicely for the last year or so, but was always a placeholder. It’s in good shape, save for the odd chip and a leather repair. But it’s not comfortable. It’s super-firm, with no ‘give’ and no tufting in the cushions. And it just doesn’t look or feel quite ‘right’.

eames-lounge-kardiel

We decided to sell it to fund re-upholstering the Plycraft. May seem crazy to sell a new-ish chair to repair a 40-year-old version…but that was the plan. We got a few offers. Most amusingly, a guy said his wife was having a C-section, but gave him permission to buy the chair. He also said this would make the perfect breast-feeding chair –too much information.

eames-lounge-kardiel-front

Then Jason emailed. He offered a low price, explaining he would reupholster it himself. I had a ‘light bulb moment’ and thought we could help each other out. Turns out he’d done at least thirty before, so we hatched a plan –he agreed to reupholster the Plycraft, in exchange for the repro. Based on prices we’d been quoted, this was a good deal.

plycraft-comparison

Next day, Jason visited us with leather samples. We retained the repro while he worked on the Plycraft. Under two weeks from collection to delivery and he sent updates throughout the process. Ours is the chair on the right, next to a more typical Plycraft. Note the significant size difference, and the variation in arm style. And here’s the final result…

craigslist-plycraft-after-front

craigslist-plycraft-after-cushions

craigslist-plycraft-after-welting

craigslist-plycraft-after-arm

craigslist-plycraft-after-side

We love how the chair turned out. Jason was a pleasure to work with and his prices (even without a repro to swap) are very reasonable. See more of Jason’s work here. We’re not quite at the furnishing stage yet, but sometimes you get an opportunity and have to take it –we’re very happy we did.

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22 replies to “lounge chair swap”

  1. tony September 25, 2015 at 9:39 am

    Hi Andy. Well, that just looks fantastic. Well worth the effort and a real professional job he has made of it. You have definitely done a great deal here. It looks so comfortable and it is sure to be great and give you years of wear. Very well done all round.

    Reply
    • fogmodern September 25, 2015 at 10:10 am

      Thanks Tony! Yeah, we love how it turned out. It was a very worthwhile exchange!

      Reply
  2. Olivia September 25, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    You’ll have to excuse my drool … 😉

    Reply
    • fogmodern September 25, 2015 at 12:59 pm

      You’re excused, Olivia! Glad you like it. We are super-happy with how it turned out.

      Reply
  3. Karolina September 25, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    That chair looks so much more comfortable than the repro. Really nice!

    Reply
    • fogmodern September 25, 2015 at 3:11 pm

      Thanks Karolina! It absolutely is, though I understand Jason is addressing that on the repro, by switching for goose down feather inside the cushions. I hope I don’t regret letting that go! Either way, we LOVE this chair!

      Reply
  4. John September 28, 2015 at 10:32 am

    Post a picture of the chair when Jason is done.

    Reply
    • fogmodern September 28, 2015 at 10:39 am

      Will do! You can also follow Jason on Instagram, where I’m sure he’ll be posting a pic: https://instagram.com/redsevenrelics/

      Reply
  5. Ivy Chesser October 7, 2015 at 7:50 am

    love your ingenuity! Gorgeous chair too.

    Reply
    • fogmodern October 7, 2015 at 8:29 am

      Thanks Ivy! Mainly a case of right place, right time –but you have to take these opportunities. We LOVE the chair.

      Reply
  6. Lisa and Kyle March 1, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    Arm style way better in the vintage…no comparison! Wish we had a place for a lounge chair like this!

    Reply
    • fogmodern March 2, 2016 at 10:17 am

      Thanks Lisa, we think so too! The footprint is actually pretty small with this version.

      Reply
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  10. Sara February 8, 2020 at 10:39 am

    Hello,
    I have a set of 2 Frank Doerner chairs with ottomans I am looking to sell.
    I can be reached at sassplus2@aol.com
    If anyone is interested

    Reply
  11. Meredith Tate February 2, 2022 at 9:18 pm

    I found one of these in my alley! I’m restoring it and don’t care a ton about resale value as I don’t see me ever letting it go. Would love any info about brands used to repair it if you can share 🙂 I love refinishing wood pieces but never worked on ply

    Reply
    • Andy February 6, 2022 at 2:57 am

      Hi Meredith. Great find – congrats! Ours will never leave us either – love these chairs so much and still looking great, many years on. We used a local furniture restorer for the leather replacement (beyond my capabilities) and were lucky that the ply just needed a good clean and some moisture – from memory, I think we just used Restor-A-Finish or wax. Depending on the condition of yours you may need to replace sections of plywood or use an epoxy-based product. Not something I’ve done, but plenty of info out there. Good luck! Andy

      Reply
  12. NICK January 12, 2023 at 3:06 pm

    Andy!

    I’m dying to speak with you about this!

    Any chance we can connect?

    Reply
    • Andy April 11, 2023 at 3:44 pm

      Sorry Nick, completely missed your comment until now. Feel free to respond or use the contact form on the site with any questions and I’ll respond here or via email if you prefer. Thanks. Andy

      Reply
  13. James April 11, 2024 at 10:51 pm

    Hello Andy,

    Approximately 9 years after your initial post and it’s still a good read. I picked up Frank Doemer Aemes style lounger this week at the local Goodwill for $19.99. Didn’t know anything about it other than it looked cool and was comfy. Did some research and appreciate the history of this chair but also wonder why the “rear cushion connectors (for want of a better descriptor) are wood”. Did you find out any info on the wooden connectors?

    Also seems these chairs were only made in 1975? I hope to acquire an ottoman and enjoy this chair for years.

    Reply
    • Andy April 14, 2024 at 7:29 am

      Hi James. Comments like yours make me thankful we’ve kept the website live – thank you! Congrats on a great find. No info on the wooden connectors but I do really love the uniqueness of this feature. Not sure about the single year of production either – can’t recall discovering that during my initial research. Good luck finding an ottoman! They really are fantastic chairs. Ours is still my favorite…and also the seat of choice for our new cat, “Smog” 🙂

      Reply

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